I have yet to ever have bad or overly runny rations with the MS myself. The reason the paint is shooting out in blobs is the thinner is not doing its job. For acrylics I use denatured alcohol period. Enamel is a term for the type of finish, not a type of paint. Lacquer only dries it does not cure. Thin your automotive paint to a more appropriate consistency before you attempt to airbrush for an easier application. It doesn't do any harm to the enamel paint and you can buy it at Lowe's/Home Depot or pretty much any hardware store by the gallon. Its always worked flawlessly for me personally. I finally resorted to using Acryl Thinner. Cold paint will flow more slowly and does not require thinning. Can't think of one. I'm not sure, but I wouldn't try it... just way a day a buy some white spirit ;-) Lusitano. You can use the paints the same way and thin them with water when you need to run them through a spray gun. It is a generic blend of solvents—anything from mostly alcohol (original lacquers were alcohol soluble) to a very esoteric blend. Enamel Paint Basics. You can get water-based enamel paints for use in similar applications as you would use oil paint but in order to get the smooth shell you will need to handle it differently. For thinning enamel paint,yes. Before you thin the paint, acclimate the paint to ambient room temperature between 50 and 90 degrees Fahrenheit. With a spray gun, you can use enamel paint on the model. Never had a problem. Sometimes I thought it would be fine, and ended up with some cracking and crazing. ... yes, you can thin paint to use like stain. You don’t have to apply primer in order to do so. You can thin acrylic paint to achieve differences in consistency and color, allowing you to attain effects that would have otherwise been impossible. Be sure to measure it so that you can reproduce the same result consistently. Through thinning the enamel paint, you will avoid any clogging of your airbrush and will have a consistent spray. Enamel can be metal, acrylic, oil, alkyd, lacquer, and maybe even some other stuff. Luckily you can easily thin your enamel paint yourself. If you must, you can even turn to rubbing alcohol. waterbase paint use water. For years I used Isopropyl Alcohol (99%) that you can find inexpensively in drug stores, but this required serious ventilation as the alcohol vapor can get absorbed quickly into your bloodstream as you breath it (not good). If you use Iso (or Tamiya's own acrylic thinner) you can take it up to about three parts thinner to one part paint and then much past that and it will start to bead and behave like it's thinned with water. I am making some wooden toy blocks and will use this paint on them. But, should you find that your enamel paint is too thin, check with your local paint or hardware store to see if there is an option that will work for the enamel you are using. oil base paints use thinner. Can I stencil over ASCP with the white enamel water based paint or will it adversely affect the chalk paint? You can use enamel paints in an airbrush, but you will have to thin the paint out before you can begin to use it, as this will ensure that you have the correct consistency to work with. Below we will go into further detail as to why it is so important that you clean your airbrush thoroughly after you’ve finished painting. These items are perfect for cleaning up your mistakes as you paint. Although it may seem from the description that water-based paint should have no issue with spray guns, the truth is that you will need to thin the paint for it to work properly. Use can get it any house paint store. Pre-Mix the Paint . From some accounts, it is nothing more than windscreen washer fluid--you can try that and see how you fare. I am in the process of painting a Singer Sewing cabinet with ASCP. I used to use a mix of Future and Isopropyl Alcohol to thin Acryls, but I had one bottle that would curdle when I tried this thinning ratio. This is why you typically can’t remove fully cured enamel with the same solvent as in the original paint. Have experimented mixing enamel paint used by miniature model painters with my oils and get good results. If you can find the aerosol versions, just decant the aerosol paint into a small container and pour a small amount into your airbrush cup/jar and then spray that onto your subject. Don’t forget your low-tack masking film, which you should use for not damaging the ‘model’. Cans of compressed air can be used but work out very expensive in the long run. Generally when people refer to paint thinners they are referring to mineral turpentine which would definitely not mix well with acrylic paint. Why Do You Need to Thin Water-Based Paint? Recommended Paint Thinner. To thin white paint, you can simply use water or rubbing alcohol. Mineral spirits (paint thinner): ... Can You Thin Wood Stain With Alcohol? Enter the acetone! 06-02-2006, 06:07 AM. 5,433 Posts #3 • Jan 28, 2010. If the paint is too thick, you won't have an even flow out of the airbrush gun and the gun will continually get clogged. I use it with all enamels and Gunze acrylics. Alcohol is not as good of a thinner as some of the others mentioned above, such as mineral spirits or even water. As you can see in the photo, some of these packs have significant amounts of old superglue, plastic, and general crud built up in the seams. Clean the surface with a dry cloth and cleaning detergent, make sure that the area you’re painting is completely dry. There's a ring of Testor's enamel paint around it, and a whole lot of superglue. Several substances can be used to thin polyurethane including turpentine, mineral spirits, paint thinner or, in some cases, water. very happy with the end result. By thinning out the enamel paint you can achieve the same clean application that oil-based paint would provide. wouter1981. Anyway, below is a short breakdown of what you can use to thin your airbrush paints, we will go into further detail below. I do have some dedicated Testor's airbrush thinner that I use to dilute paint in the bottle but that's the only thing I use it for. You can put oil-based paint over any type of paint including water-based paint. You can paint over acrylics with oil based paint. Ralph "That's thinkin' with yurr dipstick, Jimmy!" Paper towels and rags. I purchased some artists pigment acrylic paint. twisted_jdm_b16. But, in a pinch, alcohol can be used to thin stain. The blend adheres strongly to previous oil paint layers, good opaque cover with one thin application, get fine, crisp lines, no bleeding, and the enamel seems compatible with oil paint mediums. I have some denatured alcohol or should I just use plain water. Thanks for any help! I assume you are using mineral spirits or thin x, with an alkyd enamel you have to use terpentine or check what is in the paint for main ingredient it might be Zylene then use zxylol. I already have a water based white enamel paint. Chris. Lacquer thinner is intended to thin lacquers, which dry, rather than cure. When using rubbing alcohol: When using the alcohol in the paint, it will form fumes and there will be an odor; Make sure to work in a well-ventilated space when using any alcohol-based products . Enamel paint is one that both dries and cures once applied to a surface. The paint needs to pass easily through the gun's nozzle to achieve an even color across your auto's surface. Step 1 Obtain latex enamel paint. As the solvent evaporates, the vehicle undergoes a chemical reaction making it harder and less soluble than the liquid paint. For Alclad paint, I use acetone. My question is, what can I use to thin the paint with. will rubbing alcohol thin enamel paint that is oil based ? Also what would make a good wash solution before and after the sanding, I was going to use hot water, amonia, and a little dawn dish soap. I do not know how denatured alcohol would react on cowhide. handeled like car paint, sprayed like car paint. Never start mixing substances into paint without first knowing if what you are using is compatible with what is in your paint. When spraying with latex enamel paints, the desire exists to thin the paint for sprayer application. Yes you can airbrush rustoleum enamel so as long as you thin the paint down with the appropriate paint thinner - read the instructions provided on the tin. If the paint is too cold, it may give a false impression that it needs thinning. In fact, it all felt like car paint. If the paint has recently been shaken at the store, this step is not necessary. Apply the paint on a couple of thin layers, instead of one thick layer. Enamel is simple oil-based paints that are ready to use. The latter are sometimes compatible with enamel systems, and are sometimes effective as universal cleaning agents. I cannot paint without these… they are a must for a messy painter like me! (You should be able to find it in a hardware store.) Denatured alcohol will allow you to go much thinner while retaining adhesion - I've taken it to 90% thinner and still had good coverage. Mix the paint thoroughly. Most Popular Acrylic Airbrush Paint Thinners . An excellent method of protecting sprayers and conditioning the latex enamel paint is a product called a waterborne paint conditioner. Tape, stencils and silkscreens. The paint job turned out excellect, and with 5 coats had a shine, mirror just like car paint. You don't want it too thin because it can cause it dry with less gloss so I would say to start by spraying a test panel with 8 parts paint to 1 part reducer and then, if necessary, reduce it a little more. I've always used GP thinner to thin Model Master enamels. Enamel paint can be used in an airbrush. The pack in the far upper left actually has part of a plastic torso stuck to it from when I ripped it off the unsalvageable Assault Marine. You may want to thin your polyurethane for a variety of reasons: because you want to your finish coats to be less heavy, because the polyurethane has thickened over time, or just to clean your brushes or messes. Dip the swabs in alcohol to wipe away an oops or use a toothpick to scrape away any freshly dried paint that went awry. I would like to add a stencil over the chalk paint in white, but I don't want to have to buy a tin of the white ASCP. Use denatured alcohol to thin down your stain. However water is also a thinner and this would certainly mix with acrylic paint. You will also need a compressor with a tank and filters to provide a constant supply of air. Step 2 Obtain waterborne paint conditioner. can alcohol thin enamel paint ? However, it is vital you clean the airbrush thoroughly once finished. These can range in appearance, with some thinned acrylics imitating the look of watercolor or even oil painting. thats all i have around the house at the moment and i really want to paint my civic hatch . A popular brand is Floetrol. 06-02-2006, 04:59 AM. I have read to thin it with whatever the can lists to use to clean up with, (which is mineral spirits) but I have read here to use acetone with rustoleum paint up to 10% when roll and tip and up to 25% when spraying. just thin with what ever you would clean it with. You can remove latex paint with denatured alcohol. Thanks. :grinyes: thanks in advance. 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