My understanding is that barrel life is very low, from what I've read around 1500 rounds. JavaScript is disabled. Coyote Cartridges: .223 Rem. With that I am curious as to what I should expect in terms of barrel longevity with this heavy barreled .223. Many "regular" shooters are thrilled if they get a rifle / ammo that shoots under an inch. The .243 Win. and .25-06 Rem. Hi guys, So I'm just getting into some longer range shooting and was told this would be the place to get a good answer for this question. It was the wildcatters who brought it back to life by fiddling with a couple of popular designs. 1500 rounds would be a good average of a .243 barrel life. 260 rem is a better distance cartridge and a little easier on barrel life (can neck up all of your .243 brass also). Test Platform. The .257 is the best of a bad lot, and equals the ballistics of the .25-06. Remingtion 700 XCR in 7mm-08 Winchester 94 in 30-30 Ruger 77/22 in 22LR. I am sure he would not declare a 22" barrel as optimum for a .223. Six seconds. Re: .243 barrel life question. Keep it spotless and it should last a very long time. Yes, we know some barrels last longer than 3000 rounds. In my testing, the .223’s velocity was 128-fps faster on average at 50 yards. In this test only the barrel and bolt were changed. are the only popular cartridges with duel varmint and game animal hunting capability, which makes them relevant for this article. My 26" barrel Remington SPS gets between 100 and 200 fps more velocity out of identical loads than my 22" barrel Weatherby Special Varmint. Now it holds just under 1 MOA with 1500 rounds and its new purpose is plinking steel and hunting. Reply Quote 0. Well, Forum member MikeCr has developed an Excel spreadsheet that accounts for a number of variables, and gives a pretty good estimate of useful barrel life, whether you’re shooting a .223 Rem or a 338 Lapua Magnum. Bad experience can come from wounding an animal with to smaller caliber aswell that may put her off for life. The 22-250 has greater velocity which translates to better hitting power but at the cost of barrel life. It will have a negligible increase in recoil, and likely shorter barrel life compared to the .22-250, and most definitely shorter bbl life than .223 rem, probably not an issue for most hunters unless, you plan on putting a boatload of ammo through your rifle. I'm ordering another barrel to have chambered in .243 Win. if your nice to it I see no reason you should be able to shoot 2-3k rounds out of it. A little faster, a little less … IMO, the 6mm will be better for reaching out to 500+ yards. But this is a tad misleading because the .223 loses velocity much faster than the .224. Just right? As I've been getting all kinds of mixed answers elsewhere. .223 barrel life? Re: .223 vs .243 please. However, a 243 barrel will last long enough to satisfy your expectations. Thanks you but I was asking about .223 AI vs. 22-243. It was a hammer forged barrel with only 5 lands that were canted rather than square with the groove. orkan … thinner the barrel the slower the rate of fire needed. Barrel life is likely to be about 1,000 rounds (if you are lucky) and the rifle can only be rebarreled for one of the WSSM cartridges - .223, .243 or .257. I'm thinking of building a fun gun as an in-between from rimfire to my bigger guns, and trying to think of which caliber would be best. Savage factory barrel 1:9 twist. ), If this is your first visit, be sure to No typo, but My sanity is more important so I fixed it. (Favorite barrel brands. It held out for about 1000 rounds before the accuracy started falling off. Anyway, I recommend a 26-inch or at least a 24-inch barrel for a .243. far eclipse all other cartridges in the .22 bore size in popularity and therefore in commercial ammunition and production rifle availability. Taking that into consideration, barrel life? Save Share. The .308—a fine design in and of itself—has been responsible for a number of successful cartridges, but the .243 has to be the most … Benchrest shooters may be done of they can no longer hold a 1/4" group. Expect 800-1000rnds, and be thankful for that. Moose Gun Face-Off: .243 Win. 223 wsm barrel life not sure where this should go, Barrel life balanced with barrel accuracy. and .22-250 Rem. By wal0001 in forum Savage 110-Series Rifles, By lal357 in forum Savage 110-Series Rifles, By Sponxx in forum Savage 110-Series Rifles, By taylorwkrs in forum Savage 110-Series Rifles. Both of those things are great for barrel life, and you didn’t give up anything in terms of external ballistics. Where the 243 suffers is barrel life, and that is where the 6mm wildcats have their advantage over the 243. A moose-hunting veteran looks at the attributes and shortcomings of three popular rifle calibers chuck 07-07-2013, 07:43 PM #2. squirrel_slayer. This is definitely this barrels last time before giving up the ghost, we even had to trim some off of the barrel nut because we ran out of meat on the barrel. 223/243 The .243 will do everything the .223 will do at 150 yards and better, It retains more energy down range and Is more accurate, and has a much bigger ammo weight selection, most states dont let you hunt with the 223, the .243 is a game cartrige, the .223 is a varmit cartrige, If you are going to shoot junk … Comparing the 22-250 and 243 from a target standpoint the 243 wins for barrel life only; 1200 vs 2500 rounds per barrel if you're pushing things fast. Re: Barrel life for .223 target rifle by halberg » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:42 am Jack V wrote: My 223 is at 5200 moly coated rounds now and has moved from .5 to .8 inch groups. First, forget barrel life... just completely put it out of your mind. heeple Lance Corporal Federal’s testing shows that 69-grain .223 Remington Gold Medal Sierra MatchKing (SMK) will go subsonic and lose its stability at 775 yards with a 24-inch barrel. Perhaps the design played a role as well. I hear you can get 3,000 to 4,000 rounds out of a 22-250 Remington. Too small? Which of these two types have greater barrel life assuming all else being equal -same number of rds fires,same rate,etc? 1 Reply Last reply . Anyone have a .223 bolt gun you've put a bunch of rounds through? RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them. if you shoot it to much without letting it cool don't expect it to last. I have a .223 Savage varmint bbl in my basement I took off after 41,369K rounds of all moly coated 50g bullets. The ideal coyote hunting cartridge is flat shooting, highly accurate, and won’t ruin pelts. Vs. .22-250 Rem. The modern/improved design of the 6XC also allows you to use 7 grains less powder to achieve the same muzzle velocity as the 243. 243 Winchester Verse 22-250 Remington barrel life expectancy? I would want to shoot 25 grain bullets around 3900 and 20 grain bullets in the low 4's . One of the more confusing things for folks new to shooting sports is the vocabulary that comes along with those sports. a 40gr will generally wear faster than say 75's (more powder+higher velocity=more wear). I was intrigued with your 22-243 coyote videos and now brittel's .223AI. No comparison between the 223 and 22-250. The sole purpose of this site is to provide an online community for those who wish to interact with other Savage firearm enthusiasts. Since accuracy is the primary determining factor in barrel life, even what "accuracy" means from one person to another is a variable. Founded by Frank Galli in 2014, Sniper’s Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to it’s users in one location. I was pushing it pretty hard though (105 AMAX 3270 fps). Just a … Service life of a 223 barrel Not wanting to run high pressure loads, probably on the low side. I like the idea of heavy .223 bullets in a 1/7 twist barrel … Obviously a lot of things will determine throat erosion/barrel life. For contrast, I have shot out a 223 Rem barrel in a bolt action rifle in a single PD trip by using it too hard. Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. The .223 Remington wins over the .222 and its larger rival, the .22-250 in good ballistics with the minimum of powder and maximum efficiency. What would barrel life be on a 17-223 . Regardless, the .308 is a very gentle round when it comes to barrel life and with proper care it will last a long time and remain accurate for most shooters needs. .243 vs .243AI vs 6mm Rem barrel life? You must log in or register to reply here. vs. .30-06 vs. .416 Rem. I have a heavy barrelled X-Bolt Varmint Special in .223 and am curious as to how long I should expect this barrel to remain accurate … As illustrated in the chart, .223 Remington rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3150 feet per second (fps) while .243 Winchester rounds travel at a velocity of 3180 fps. On the other hand, plenty of .243 Win and 6.5-284 barrels lose accuracy in 1500 rounds or less. .223 vs .243 Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by j4dlee, Dec 20, 2009. This site utilizes affiliate programs to generate revenue and as such purchasing a product reached by clicking on a link on this site may earn us a small commission on that sale. There are plenty more for whom 1.5-2" is perfectly OK. In this post, a continuation of Rifleshooter.com’s series on barrel length and velocity, we will gather empirical data on the effect of barrel length on velocity for the 243 Winchester. The .223 performance. The .223 Rem. 226 Posts . My load was medium and it was strictly a p-dog/coyote rig. The information and opinions expressed within this site are those of its contributors, and in no way should be viewed as the opinions or recommendations of Savage Arms. The .243 Winchester is simply the .308 Winchester necked down to hold .243″ diameter bullets. It still shot one ragged hole if I did my part. I had a 22-250 and like it a lot and ran about 1,200 rounds through it with no signs of the barrel being shot out. That’s how long your barrel actually functions (in terms of bullet-in-barrel shot time) before it “goes south.”. He believes that why the 6XC provides better barrel life than the 243. It is hotter than a .222 but not as hot as a .22-250, so there should be no worry about barrel wear and reduced life. Mag. To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. A quick video showcasing the 223 and 243 cartridges against my fake deer target. The first place you hear these discussions in in competition circles. check out the. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. And a bit higher cost in ammo too, burning more powder. They have promised a barrel swap program but it hasn't come to fruition yet (and why I like NEF/H&R more). If you are new to shooting sports, and have been browsing predator rifles, you might have stumbled across a conversation about .223 vs. 5.56 that left … 22-250 VS .223 What would you get and why? Is there a more reliable way to predict barrel life — one that will work for a broad range of calibers? Assuming shooting at a reasonable rate with simmilar loads which round will be the easiest on barrels? Not sure that the .243… These cartridges are speed demons. I had a 223 barrel that I never put a "normal" round through it, I mean I must have put 2000 plus hot loads though that thing and never saw any difference in accuracy from the beginning, it has been rethroated and then turned into an AI then rethroated as an AI, that barrel must have 10,000 rounds though it and still going strong, my buddy has it now as a spare or as he calls it a guest gun, he lives in NH and we have a mutual friend that comes up from MA once in a while, he likes to shoot but Knows nothing about guns, so we told him it was a 30-06 so he goes back to MA and tells everyone he shot 100 rounds of 30-06 That day, does this make me a bad person.LOL. My Zev Technologies build was the base, and their billet MML upper receiver fully supports the barrel and has produced precision rifle accuracy in .223, 6.8 SPC and 6.5 Grendel. The latter is a ferarri compared to the 223 chevy performance. 223 components are obviously plentiful, I'm just wondering what kind of barrel life the bolt guns get in this and … also different loads act differently. You first have to define what barrel life is. View Profile View Forum Posts View Articles Status Offline. Discussion Starter • #1 • Nov 2, 2001. I have a 243 that I shot in F Class that was a sub .5 MOA gun. Whether you are confused about the differences between calibers and gauges, or shells and bullets, sometimes just learning the terms is half the job. Vs. .243 Win. There are no members to list at the moment. 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